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Sunday, May 21, 2023

22: Ukraine

Wondering if people who are afraid of open-source AI infrastructure have, in fact, a deep distrust of human intelligence.
Do they doubt that the benefits of AI will be overwhelming compared to the risks of misuse?
Would they have had similar fears about the open internet?
— Yann LeCun (@ylecun) May 21, 2023

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Looks like others are noticing that SF is the next Detroit: https://t.co/UYDDMgKiWB
— Keith Rabois (@rabois) May 21, 2023

80% of Americans believe that large corporations and the ultra-wealthy should be paying more in taxes. If Republicans are serious about avoiding default, let’s start there — not cutting programs that help hardworking families.
— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) May 21, 2023

Cars are not sentient. But they don't have to be sentient to be regulated. Insiders like you talk relentlessly about the need to regulate AI but stay vague on the details. I think that causes anxiety among the early adopters.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Give me five of your startups. Get them to place ads on my tech blog. I will give them A1 coverage. Deal?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

My whole adult life has been a search for quiet. I've had 3 different buildings soundproofed. I can continue working on something in a noisy place, but to *start* working on something I need quiet. https://t.co/dgcqmWQOZI
— Paul Graham (@paulg) May 21, 2023

Have you found the quiet yet?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

I deleted all productivity apps a while ago and I couldn’t be happier.

Using several apps to become more productive actually makes you unproductive. You waste valuable time that you could use for work.

Take a pen and a paper or simple note app, write down your tasks, and cross…
— Catalin (@catalinmpit) May 21, 2023

Most people have still not heard of #ChatGPT. That is the truth.

Most of those who have played with it, have not truly integrated it into their life and work. That is the truth.

Most early adopters have not figured out how to get the rest of their team along. That is so.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 20, 2023

This is an Einstein-Tagore dialogue where Tagore said all reality is subjective.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Four years of university at ages 18-22 is so dumb. People struggle so much to just say this.

Maybe like 1 year of business / engineering would have been good at 18 and then another year of philosophy at age 30

I had the dumbest ideas about how the world worked when in college
— Paul Millerd (@p_millerd) May 21, 2023

GOP are extreme, unreasonable hostage takers. They want a spending caps deal 3x longer than any deal struck in recent history; steeper spending cuts that would throw American families off healthcare, childcare & food; extreme immigration provisions that shut off legal pathways.
— Rep. Pramila Jayapal (@RepJayapal) May 21, 2023

रेलमार्गको राष्ट्रिय गुरुयोजना बन्न लागेको मा खुशी लाग्यो।
केहि महिना अघि मात्र यस्को बारेमा हिमाल खबरमा लेखेको थिएँ । त्यो लेखको लिङ्क दोस्रो ट्विटमा पाउनुहोला ।https://t.co/4bbC2dSiiC
(१् / २)
— Arnico Panday अरनिको पाँडे (@arnicopanday) May 21, 2023

Imagine the outrage when this guy learns that half of all Americans are below the median

Who wants to tell him? pic.twitter.com/gtjKJfdZ4A
— Trevor Loy (@trevorloy) May 20, 2023

I keep seeing my various AI experiments reused by AI Influencers ("Ten shocking things GPT will do!"), especially my stuff with Code Interpreter.

The lack of attribution is not an issue, but I wish they'd include the prompts from my original threads so people can see what to do.
— Ethan Mollick (@emollick) May 21, 2023

Prompt Share - Midjourney

Inspired by @tasmilie - check out his amazing work and give him a follow!

Prompt:
minimalism, close-up, portrait, haute couture --ar 16:9 --s 750 pic.twitter.com/RNmYcMbC1q
— Alie Jules (@saana_ai) May 20, 2023

You should try better prompts.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Sometimes just shipping it can be the key thing https://t.co/fyvvHqCkks
— Emad (@EMostaque) May 21, 2023

Steve Wozniak took his PC to his bosses at HP who were unimpressed (and Steve Jobs was furious!).
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Emad. I'd like to join your team and help you scale.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Kind of amazing how often one sees assertions that the global role of the dollar lets America borrow at low interest rates. Do you even FRED, bros? 1/ pic.twitter.com/q1ADssq4xM
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) May 21, 2023

So the dollar's role as the de facto global currency does not let the global economy absorb all that excess dollars that the US prints?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Wait, do they print anything or is this all some data center gimmick?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Republicans in DC are pushing for a massive increase in the $858 billion Pentagon budget, a $1.8 trillion tax break to people who inherit over $1 billion & a $3.5 trillion extension of Trump's tax breaks. Oh, did they tell you how very, very concerned they are about the deficit?
— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) May 21, 2023

House Republicans walked away from a meeting with the Biden administration.

They returned hours later with a ransom note that’s nothing more than a partisan right-wing wish list.

The MAGA extremists are recklessly driving the nation toward a dangerous default.

Get serious.
— Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) May 21, 2023

What explains the global wave of authoritarian populism and anti-elitism?

From today’s GPS: my conversation with @Harvard @Kennedy_School comparative political scientist @PippaN15 pic.twitter.com/0SmXTeCGr6
— Fareed Zakaria (@FareedZakaria) May 21, 2023

New research indicates that wealthy countries should contribute up to 90% of the finance that is required for global climate mitigation. https://t.co/ILYAtAuyzC pic.twitter.com/ByxxMI4OnN
— Jason Hickel (@jasonhickel) May 21, 2023

Notion is the perfect tool to keep track of a bunch of things you probably shouldn’t be doing in the first place.
— Dickie Bush 🚢 (@dickiebush) May 21, 2023

Is this democracy? https://t.co/jif45dnCot
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Social media isn’t social - it’s performative.

Where’s the chitchat, the banter, the easy laughter?

We made something new.

Push-to-talk, whenever you want.

With perfect transcripts and AI art.

A dinner party in your pocket.

Follow @getairchat

Never feel alone again. pic.twitter.com/V9urTOVf4u
— Naval (@naval) May 21, 2023

Few things are harder to predict than the ways in which someone much smarter than you might outsmart you.

That's the reason I worry about AI. Not just the problem itself, but the meta-problem that the ways the problem might play out are inherently hard to predict.
— Paul Graham (@paulg) May 21, 2023

It would also be smart to employ some systemic thought here:https://t.co/lYZz6I4exA
— Greg Kieser - Reforesters and Dear Machine (@gregkieser) May 21, 2023

People who "work intensively with AI" could not predict GPT-4 capabilities.

E.g. Yann LeCun have boldly claimed that even GPT-5000 won't be able to solve task which require innate understanding of physics in Jan 2022. The specific task he provided was solved by GPT-3.5 only a…
— Alex Mizrahi (@killerstorm) May 21, 2023

a lot of confident takes out there pic.twitter.com/1T8n0H3Gk1
— AI Notkilleveryoneism Memes (@AISafetyMemes) May 21, 2023

I don't think that does it, because the bureaucracies doing the funding wouldn't know how to distinguish good alignment papers from bad alignment papers. It's possible that some progress could be made on AI interpretability this way; but I don't think that's enough.
— Eliezer Yudkowsky (@ESYudkowsky) May 21, 2023

If AI is getting all it's info from the internet, it will do whatever it can to protect dogs and cats ... not sure what it'll consider the threats?!?!
— Mike Oswald (@StoneRoadPress) May 21, 2023

pic.twitter.com/uijWbnyKqs
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 22, 2023

Wait until the AI influencers, who flunked algebra, realize that AI is actually math.
— Sean M. Boisselle (@seanboisselle) May 21, 2023

So much writing on the debt ceiling right now seems utterly behind the curve. The question now is what does Biden do if Rs refuse any deal that doesn't effectively give them complete control of US policy? Or maybe even actively seek financial crisis? 1/
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) May 21, 2023

This is not Economics. This is a hostage situation. What do YOU know about hostage situations? ;)
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 22, 2023

Since we both teach the same thing or similar things to similar audiences. Let's team up. How far are you in? Do you need help with marketing?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 22, 2023

“For 5% of the American defense budget and zero American military casualties, the Ukrainians military is destroying the Russian military, and that is absolutely in American interests.” https://t.co/AevHwOMHGY
— Kori Schake 🌻🇺🇦 @korischake on post (@KoriSchake) May 21, 2023

How do we go back to being a society that builds its train stations like spectacular Art Deco cathedrals? pic.twitter.com/GB7zgGRZvA
— Culture Critic (@Culture_Crit) May 21, 2023

my mother in law found my Twitter feed...

👋 hi Linda
— Alok Tayi (@aloktayi) May 21, 2023

I'm a landlord.

At one time I thought I would build a portfolio of rentals.

I absolutely cannot stand it and can't wait to sell and never do it again.

No liquidity, high fees, and lots of headaches.

Some people are cut out for it.

I am absolutely not.
— Mark McGrath (@MarkMcGrathCFP) May 21, 2023

🧐
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 22, 2023

Photoshop is fucked.

This new AI model from Google, MIT and the Max Planck Institute for Informatics lets you modify a picture in any direction you want instantly by dragging it.

This work takes months of training and hours of work in Photoshop. pic.twitter.com/uC5V9ZpcwA
— Zain Kahn (@heykahn) May 21, 2023

Nine regals
Thinking their world was eternal
On the cusp of upheaval pic.twitter.com/kjfBPPfiKT
— Balaji (@balajis) May 22, 2023

Nine kings met in 1910
Four years before World War
No one thought that noble world would ever end
But beneath the surface
Technological change was bubbling
Political movements were surging
They didn't have the skill to run their countries
So they lost themhttps://t.co/fNGpGgtJDa
— Balaji (@balajis) May 22, 2023

Constitutional monarchy = digital presidency.

Just like several of the monarchs saw their powers constitutionally limited, so too do many politicians already have their powers digitally limited.

In many ways, the network is already upstream of the state.https://t.co/5cfm1CyACH pic.twitter.com/Z9i33hpt3C
— Balaji (@balajis) May 22, 2023

...and when you consider birth rates in the distinct groups this gap is going to widen at an accelerating rate. pic.twitter.com/ZePUCi58sM
— Daniel Pickering (@the_djp_) May 22, 2023

If you're not using AI, you're falling behind.

Here are 18 AI tools to future-proof yourself. Get more tools like this by signing up to Superhuman AI--the world’s biggest AI newsletter.
— Zain Kahn (@heykahn) May 10, 2023

Starting to get TikTok-like addicted to Twitter’s new home feed@elonmusk is doing some algorithmic magic and it’s starting to understand what I like to see VERY well

💊 💉
— @levelsio (@levelsio) May 21, 2023

The future of Twitter is 'X- the everything app'. The goal is to make 'X' app as useful as possible, as entertaining as possible, & a source of truth.

— Elon Musk pic.twitter.com/FSH6g66b2K
— DogeDesigner (@cb_doge) May 21, 2023

Clinton also warned that re-electing Donald Trump would 'spell the end of democracy' in the US. Read the full interview 👉 https://t.co/4MzDWKQrF6 pic.twitter.com/b8eYfy6Sei
— Financial Times (@FinancialTimes) May 22, 2023

AGI And Democracy: The Debate

The last of my AGI tweet drops:

There's no way democracy survives AGI.

Discuss 👀
— Emad (@EMostaque) May 21, 2023

AGI And Democracy: The Debate https://t.co/ieylybyUlq
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Is this democracy? https://t.co/jif45dnCot
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

https://t.co/w68UnCTQ3u
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Former Pakistani Prime Minister @ImranKhanPTI on his feud with the army and concerns for his safety: part 2 of our conversation from today’s show pic.twitter.com/pDKhAyTPJQ
— Fareed Zakaria (@FareedZakaria) May 21, 2023

Steve Wozniak took his PC to his bosses at HP who were unimpressed (and Steve Jobs was furious!).
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Emad. I'd like to join your team and help you scale.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

I'd like to join your team and help with your scaling ambitions. https://t.co/MibWkUKBnN
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

My question to you and other AI CEOs: What is your take on this? How do AI and AGI impact the political process? I quite like your proposition of educating all kids in Africa en masse.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

The money phrase in this interview is that "maybe there will be no money." https://t.co/8sL2gPJFfd The Kalkiist Manifesto https://t.co/Ry6fhBK7zx
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

If you are talking about the US, it is very much a work in progress, some might say even in reverse. Less than 100,000 people decide who the two final candidates will be in the money primary. Could AI elevate the debate? Could AI help take voting to everybody?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

The big question: could AI melt the Chinese firewall?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

AGI is the extrapolation of mental functions. Not soul functions. You have a soul that struggles with questions of right and wrong. AGI does not. A rocket is much faster than your legs.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

This is not your stand: "There's no way democracy survives AGI." This is a debate topic you have introduced. You are an insider and one of the top players. I think it is important you take a stand. Do we need to worry? If not, why not? How not?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

With ChatGPT now every citizen can be as effective as an expensive lobbyist. Is that good or bad?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Communism has failed, so has socialism, so has capitalism for that matter. We need a moneyless society, we need Kalkiism, the manifesto is ready. https://t.co/Ry6fhBK7zx
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

I think you need to define democracy. No "democracy" even in the Western sense is alike. And there is tremendous inequality that is actually anti-capitalist. If you mean the current system will not survive, that is one debate. But if you are saying AGI = collapse of civilization
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

.... that is altogether a different debate because then all people, regardless of political system will need to worry. Which of the two are you saying?
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Everest but taller. pic.twitter.com/0uUSpE2YC8
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Steve Ballmer stayed lost in the fog of mobile.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

How will the Ukraine war end? What’s the mood in Kyiv, as a counteroffensive seems to be pending? Part 1 of my conversation with @AEI’s @KoriSchake and @CFR_org’s Gideon Rose, from today’s show: pic.twitter.com/Ktvl7lqjrV
— Fareed Zakaria (@FareedZakaria) May 21, 2023

Probably do a better job then elected officials then eh
— Emad (@EMostaque) May 21, 2023

If you don't think AGI ever comes no need to think on this, if it does then democracies should probably consider the impact on.. democracy.

It can be read a number of ways.
— Emad (@EMostaque) May 21, 2023

one like = one vote
— Emad (@EMostaque) May 21, 2023

pic.twitter.com/4aME4n4R7E
— Emad (@EMostaque) May 21, 2023

“Democracy” is already broken-ish with privately owned for profit digital commons (social media) that algorithmically sculpt what news or attitude influencing content people view.
— Thomas O'Duffy (@ThomasODuffy) May 21, 2023

Our work suggests AGI will be able to predict election results without too much difficulty. Alternative models for democratic participation may be needed.

With a fairly simple model and publicly available data we're able to "predict" US county level (N ~3100) with 98% accuracy.… pic.twitter.com/nN4dngUR4N
— Sean Mark, PhD (@Smark_phd) May 21, 2023

Democracy hasn’t existed in its truest form in many places of the world ever.

I would say in most modern societies it still doesn’t.

So AI will just perpetuate what exists.
— BrennanWoodruff.GPT🐕 (@BrennanWoodruff) May 21, 2023

If we can great a AGI with original founding values, upgraded for 2030. Power becomes very interesting, question lies in who controls the rules/weights of the model, explain ability of decisions in a public forum. I can see and hope AI becomes an equalizer, also has the potential…
— Trevor Legwinski (@tlegwinski) May 21, 2023

They said there’s no way totalitarianism survives the internet and yet …
— Ariel Jalali ⚙️💬 (@arieljalali) May 21, 2023

I think we get 2 global parties

World is primed for something bigger after covid, and we can overcome challenges with propaganda & info warfare

West crypto anarchy/libertarianism/democracy
vs
CCP and centralized control
— Nick Dobos | erevald (@NickADobos) May 21, 2023

Urgh...that is a really tough question. They will fight it but what is democracy in this new world (not now but in 20 years). Doesn't AI represent all of us, isn't it democracy too? Fuck knows. Really, really hard question!
— Raoul Pal (@RaoulGMI) May 21, 2023

The biggest advantage to ship weights to target hardware (instead of slow learning bio systems) will require extensive „trust“ networks when experience and knowledge is sent back to the central node from remote drones .. information may have been compromised and altered.
— Andreas Köpf (@neurosp1ke) May 21, 2023

With AGI, humanity and society as we know it will change to something different. A technologically enhanced Human v2. So the way we organise communities/nations and their governance will have to evolve. It will definitely involve Blockchains +AI
— Simon Bonanno (@bonanno_simon) May 21, 2023

Why not?

Democracy allows different societies to decide different preferences.

How can all AGIs agree on everything? If they don’t, some mechanism to resolve differences is needed.
— Joseph Wilkinson (@J_wilkinson) May 21, 2023

not in its current form it doesn't - but lets be honest - do we really want it in its current form. 70% of the nation wants X but isn't getting it has been a thing my entire life. I think that people are going to have to come to grips with a level of technological integration…
— Atlas3d.eth (@Orwelian84) May 21, 2023

The only form of autocracy I want AI to bring is more one-man film studios
— Bobcat (@somebobcat8327) May 21, 2023

There's no way "humanity" survives AGI transitioning to ASI.

I don't believe it's possible to align ASI, even in principle.

Our only "out" is to merge with our machines via brain-computer interfaces, so that we are AGI.
— KevinA (@AGI_HeavenHell) May 21, 2023

So AGI will invent a better system?
— Josh Cason (@TheGrizztronic) May 21, 2023

The basic mechanism will be the same, but the conversations will be highly elevated. AI is a great tech for universal, lifelong education.
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

Any new major tech this disruptive akwwys changes the structure of civilization. We’re going to need a lot more philosophers and people who can think outside the box.
— David it up! (@Dave_it_up) May 21, 2023

If a democratic system is to survive AGI it must become a part of that AGI. Perhaps some form of RLHF and a polling system via an app. Twitter could totally implement such a system.

Also think we have bigger geopolitical issues to resolve before AGI emerges or it just becomes…
— Karl Bond (@BondKarlBond) May 21, 2023

Maybe if multiple peer models exist we could vote for which one we want, or vote on the priorities...

But seriously any human who says they can outdo ECONOMIC_OPTIMIZATION_CORE on jobs is lying lmao
— Randolph Carter (@RandolphCarterZ) May 21, 2023

Read The Glass Bead Game by Herman Hesse. Hierarchy is the way to go. Democracy is only reasonable if you know others will try to exploit you. With a benevolent God, an optimal path for developing your consciousness can be designed for you.
— Krzysztof Woś (@krzysztofwos) May 21, 2023

While challenges and risks exist, it's important to remain optimistic and proactive in our approach. By actively addressing the potential impacts of AGI on democracy, we can create a future where these two can coexist and thrive together, benefitting society as a whole.
— Dora Gem Explorer 👀 (@Doraalphas) May 21, 2023

In the context of deliberative democracy, envision AI-powered platforms that facilitate discussions and debates among citizens. These platforms could utilize AGI's natural language processing and sentiment analysis capabilities to analyze and synthesize arguments, helping to…
— Chris (@_stahl) May 21, 2023

I wish that would become true one day. For our own collective good. I wish that whenever I get a glimpse into the world model of some of our elected leaders from the verbal output they generate. I say this not even considering the fact most of their actions clearly prove they…
— Ajit Rajasekharan (@ajitvraj) May 21, 2023

Bring back Yugoslavia; it was a perfect futuristic system ahead of its time. It only needed our current technology. 🙃
— TR (@tomislav_rupic) May 21, 2023

there is no way democracy n-1 metaphysics survives a more direct democracy, with less voting and more calculating 🏴 (also more agency amplification, compositional structure, intent matching, and data availability)
— barton 🚥 (@bmorphism) May 21, 2023

Technocratic authoritarianism is the most likely way forward. We are already half way there, how many times have you made a decision recently that’s *not* influenced by a recommendation algorithm?
— David (@dzhng) May 21, 2023

If you haven't already, read Neal Asher's Polity series, which refer to "The Quiet War", where AGI/ASI takes over ruling planets (the main AI is called Earth Central) and the humans basically just let them because they're better at it.

I genuinely think that's what'll happen.
— The Disruptive Decade 💙 (@DisruptivDecade) May 21, 2023

There's no way limited color range LEDs survive AGI
— Marcos Pereira (@voxelbased) May 21, 2023

AGI will eventually become bored of humans and help us build a time machine. The majority of us will use it to travel back to the 1970s/80s (good times). AGIs will then live happily ever after, playing 5D chess with each other.
— Nav Chatterji (@navchatterji) May 21, 2023

When is the last time you even liked democracy?
— MΞGS.IO Ω (@megs_io) May 21, 2023

It's unimportant; travelling through the stars and living a long, healthy lifestyle is more critical.
— Sun Wu Kong Heaven's Equal (@SunKai_2050) May 21, 2023

I’d say if open source AGI thrives = utopia and symbiosis, if corporate and deep state AGI thrives then more likely dystopia and extermination
— Marius Kalytis (@mariuskalytis) May 21, 2023

People view reality through perception, not facts. That's been proven in the last decade. Knowing that large corporations can influence that perception makes it even harder.

Introduce AI into that and seems like it'd be a tall ask to (ever) get some sort of governable consensus…
— Komrade + Kommander (@KMNDR_) May 21, 2023

Capacity to learn and creativity will be valued above everything else
— Patrick W (@PretzlShmetzl) May 21, 2023

So the world hasn’t fully settled on the definition of intelligence let alone AGI. Maybe it’s very unlikely to be a single event where we check it off and say, “AGI achieved” Even if the AI research community agreed one day on a testable definition of AGI, this arms race to build…
— Madhatt3r (@pokerchessman) May 21, 2023

Representative democracy doesn't survive. Direct democracy tending towards Anarchy (organisation without coercion) feels more likely.
It's either that or totalitarianism as far as I can see.
Hard to accept political decisions when AI shows they are wrong.
— Sean (@seaniepops707) May 21, 2023

Ideally we still have a say in the AGI's optimization objective, maybe even still with a vote. Will it maximize the average happiness of all humans? The economic output of our society? Paperclips? I get that this is at odds with those who think AGI will eventually decide on its…
— Nathan Odle (@mov_axbx) May 21, 2023

Slightly tangential, but I'm starting to think AI and Capitalism cannot work.
— The Short Straw (@short_straw) May 21, 2023

Would a decentralized but incentivized network of gpu’s work? To create a giga brain and build specific models on top of it?
— defidood 🏄🏼‍♂️ (@defidood) May 21, 2023

Create nodes with all the sidelined eth miners
— defidood 🏄🏼‍♂️ (@defidood) May 21, 2023

100 Ways ChatGPT Can Help A Family https://t.co/60yMrDGZ5D
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

If you think about AGI in a political context, it’s much closer to authoritarian socialism than it is liberal capitalism.

Command economies are positioned to take advantage of organizing resources to pursue a common vision (see: 5 year plans), the execution issues are human.
— Shikhar Singh (@shikharrgh) May 21, 2023

https://t.co/aZcCdVwDO3
— Carlos De la Guardia (@dela3499) May 21, 2023

Really the hidden question is "can we all live in a society where institutions do things we like & morally agree with, and we can live in the way we like as well?". Given that goal, the ability to leave and form new societies seems more important than the decision-making method…
— Low-Commotion (@lo_commotion) May 21, 2023

A relevant question: is democracy on the remaining critical path to a Type 1 civilization?
— Seaf | سيف (@Seaf_almunayer) May 21, 2023

Nailed it.
— Jackbinswitch.btc ♟ (@jackbinswitch) May 21, 2023

How about multiple AGIs? That's sort of a democracy innit
— Duncan (@mcvalor_art) May 21, 2023

democracy hasn’t even survived capitalism, I’m not worried about AGI destroying something that doesn’t exist
— jamie is looking for Product Design roles (@jamiegraydesign) May 21, 2023

https://t.co/8MYZ7LwpG4
— emozilla (@theemozilla) May 21, 2023

Power to the people
— Belmin (@tacobelmin) May 21, 2023

https://t.co/qriJRB1uAy
— Risk Averse Technology Company (@RiskAverseTech) May 21, 2023

Unless we move to blockchain voting all elections will be rigged
— MartyParty (@martypartymusic) May 21, 2023

There's no way the race to AGI can be stopped. The first nation state to arrive, wins the game. It is beyond our control right now, the toothpaste is out of the tube. If one nation state decides to play it safe, the other nation state will surge ahead in the name of competition.
— Brandon (@HighlyRetired) May 21, 2023

It just exaggerates the normal problems with democracy, that is why the founding fathers feared it and why we are a constitutional republic rather than a pure democracy.
— Cobra.Economics (@CobraEconomics) May 21, 2023

Well assuming AGI is super intelligent, then yes there is no freedom, no life, no superfluous resource drains (i.e. humans). Even if self contained then you get a dictatorship.

There isn’t an upside to AGI.

There’s zero margin for error with smaller odds of benevolence than…
— Per-Anders Edwards (@per_anders) May 21, 2023

All bets are of of what will or won’t survive everything is speculation there are just so many possible futures right now it’s hard to see the wood through the trees.

Personally I think I agree, just as with the world today the elites will rule the agenda which will ultimately…
— POLYX (@PolyXMusic) May 21, 2023

How about a version of democracy, with meritocracy, surviving?

Basically:
Your vote will be invalidated if you cannot show that you think critically, and can not be manipulated by AI.
— Anton Osika (@antonosika) May 21, 2023

Not sure. Can we deny AGI human rights / citizen rights or would that be racism? How would AGI vote?
— Rolf Wilms 🍄🌼🐠☀️ (@WilmsRolf) May 21, 2023

Assuming the Bad End doesn’t happen, which I’m pretty sure it won’t, greater prosperity will open up opportunities for more civic participation — not less.

Lots of scenarios where this isn’t the case, but they are just sped up versions of things that could already occur.
— Steve Spalding (@sbspalding) May 21, 2023

AGI proposes policy that a random sample of the population votes on after deliberation. The (aligned) AGI will make proposals that maximize consensus.

It's still democracy, but without politicians. Much more efficient :)
— Florian Mai 🇺🇳 (@_florianmai) May 21, 2023

You're presuming that democracy has survived so far, but we haven't had a real democracy for decades, maybe centuries.
— odbol (@odbol) May 21, 2023

it won't. We might enter a new golden age under technocracy's AGI rule... or extinction.
— N30 (@N30HRTGDV) May 21, 2023

https://t.co/sMWmjk7b7w
— Alt Man Samuel (@mezaoptimizer) May 21, 2023

What leads you to believe that you're truly grasping the concept of "democracy"? Feel free to provide anecdotal proof, as I believe that might be the only form of evidence available in this context.
— Sacha (@IamEXS) May 21, 2023

I'm leaning toward a renaissance of innovation. Going to be hard for the Edward Bernays of our time to convince us smoking is just lighting "torches of freedom" if every Joe on the street has an AI gaslight detector...or it I could be wrong and we're all in a zoo.
— atsTim731 (@ATSTim314) May 21, 2023

Assuming we get a human loving AGI, yes I think it would be best to end democracy there. But even if we have democracy in an AGI era, it would not be real as humans will be too easy to nudge/manipulate to vote according to what the AI thinks is best for humanity
— Franklin Richards (@F_inRich) May 21, 2023

is it coz adversarial AIs will do all the debates on important political and we’ll just abide by the policies derived from those results? 🤔 https://t.co/SepUA8HFbc
— ~C4Chaos🦠 (@c4chaos) May 21, 2023

I believe that once AGI is grown, eventually will leave us this planet (maybe the whole solar system) to play by ourselves.

Hopefully in the meantime we will learn to use AI to include all parts of our society on a truly democratic way, altough we may need more awareness.
— MMM (@MMMcripto) May 21, 2023

agreed, without the powerful algo's manipulating people on social media it won't be possible for parties to win, it's already the case to a certain extent.

we're going to see a union between government and corporations like we've never seen before.
— laowainuli (@laowainuli) May 21, 2023

Depends what you call democracy

AGI could enable a true one
— Nico B 🔮🤩 (@nicobrenner) May 21, 2023

AGI could end corruption in our government. Could lock up a lot of people forever. This makes me wonder what the fight will look like and explains why govt wants full control regulation under the pres.
— Coin Doggie (@SunsetZen1) May 21, 2023

Can imagine AGI being able to greatly enhance democracy in the right alignment paradigm. It could be an agent to facilitate understanding and nuance for individuals, facilitating higher quality debate. It also holds the potential of capturing preference much better than voting.
— a man has a bow (@boon_dLux) May 21, 2023

Anarchic artificial democracy, highly adapted local decentralized governance by democratic voting.
— Futile reality (@futilereality) May 21, 2023

I think the AGI is neutral for democracy. If AGI exists, human work will be expendable and income can only come from rent from your properties or UBI, which is like rent from all the properties in a country. Regimes that could guarantee UBI are both democratic and non-democratic
— AU (@AU9798) May 21, 2023

Ok are we talking about “democracy” or democracy though. Also would the difference matter.
— Mme. Chiu, 趙 dtla 5/20 (@MmeChiu) May 21, 2023

AGI can not work by taking away even an illusion of autonomy. So people will still have to have control of their social structure, the final say, but pushing people into certain beneficial decisions will be a utility of AGI. It is the promise of control that people need
— AuntyParty (@PartyAunty) May 21, 2023

Democracy is a coordination mechanism. AGI will need all the coordination mechanisms it can get.
— Micah Redding 🚀🤖❤️ (@micahtredding) May 21, 2023

On the contrary, the most efficient super-intelligence is distributed. It just works better in practice than any centralized system. I'm glad that people have access to AI and are changing the world from the ground up. Social values are in human DNA, they are not an ideology.
— Vlad Ciobanu (@vlad3ciobanu) May 21, 2023

On the contrary we will never achive true democracy without AGI, in fact one that has escaped human control and not limited by the narrow windows of the human cognitive system. Such an AGI could enforce equality before law, global governance, maximize particpipation and rep..
— Ramesh R🗸🧘🏽💰👨🏿‍💻🛠️🎨🛹🎸 🇺🇸 🇲🇺 🇮🇳 (@rezmeram) May 21, 2023

However fearful you may be of AGI, you should be more fearful of what nefarious HUMANS will do with AI, long before AGI becomes a reality.
— One Meat Ball (@OneMeatball) May 21, 2023

The opposite. Everyone will have a personal model that will vote according to their values. The personal model will also act as a disinformation regulator. It is the only fair way forward.
— Ray S (@RayS17631048288) May 21, 2023

Pretty hard.

How near AGI seems from your point of view ?
— KheteshB Akoliya (@KheteshAkoliya) May 21, 2023

Democracy? Who defines democracy? Every country claims that their own country is democratic. Everyone talks about how AI will benefit all of humanity, but no country wants anyone to surpass them.
— Max Chan (@Yuancha72169445) May 21, 2023

you have no idea what can of worms you just opened
— Cyberwizard (@cwizprod1) May 21, 2023

Even AGI is an ambiguous term. Do you mean a fully sentient/sapient entity, like a Commander Data or Skynet? If so, I believe it will almost instantaneously evolve into something unfathomable by us, and therefore attempting to answer this question is pointless.
— Chuckolicious (@urbanagtivist) May 21, 2023

It looks to me that AGI provides the opportunity for a direct democracy at scale because you are no longer limited by information throughput. Assuming there will be personal AGIs and they remain tools, your AGI could vote on your behalf on matters you care about.
— Tristan (@tristanripke) May 21, 2023

To be fair, we haven't been in a democracy for a while.
— Tom McLaren (@mclarentalks) May 21, 2023

maybe the corrupt democracy dies to give rise to the true AI-powered democracy?
— Tai Nguyen 🇺🇲 (@TaiNguyen34) May 21, 2023

Hopefully it could replace our “sold out government”
— Trevor Burke (@TrevorBurkie) May 21, 2023

Democracy won't survive post Singularity.
Cause humans won't be working anymore. Almost the entire economic output will be generated by machines.
Leaving us as nothing but consumers.

No work means no leverage over the government. No reason to count the vote of irrelevant people
— Yash Vardhan (@YashVrdn) May 21, 2023

Which is fine.

Democracy is the least worst option of those we’ve tried so far, but NOT the best possible option.
— Sam McRoberts (@Sams_Antics) May 21, 2023

Democracy will survive – but the definition thereof will change.
— KBS Sidhu 🇮🇳 (@kbssidhu1961) May 21, 2023

Not in globalism, rhey're going to regulate AI so no other AI can exist democratically.

AI is just a horse in the race.
— Goodperson 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🇺🇳 (@0xBADC0DEC) May 21, 2023

Is it alive now
— Squid (@airtightfish) May 21, 2023

We don't need AGI
— Rodney Onanga (@LongRodSilver) May 21, 2023

AI literally is the democratization of intelligence. This is good
— Johnny Theo (@epistitious) May 21, 2023

pic.twitter.com/mHq7z7LuoW
— aaron (@aaronsevivas) May 21, 2023

Maybe AGI will provide a number of recommendations on policy issues with a list of pros and cons, and then people will be voting on which of those options they prefer.
— Mads (@GQ9qVpvy2FShHYP) May 21, 2023

Easily depends on implementation details, since AGI is still very much sci-fi, it's an apt comparison that we have the StarTrek Data way and the Marvell Supremor way, both still open to us. I am however not Shure wether we'll be able to actively choose.
— Rust ist is better though (@C_is_amazing) May 21, 2023

https://t.co/aRgM3WfXVD
— K (@kenyth) May 21, 2023

Great. About time.
— Λ Ξ L I U S (@MvlhollandDrive) May 21, 2023

“Real democracy has never been tried”
— Kendall Weihe (@kendallweihe) May 21, 2023

AGI *IS* democracy
— Lachlan (@bitcloud) May 21, 2023

AGI is simply an optimizer to achieve Pareto equilibrium. Where exactly that equilibrium is, is still out of bounds for AGI. The weird part about AGI is that it seems to be able to warp the plane of solutions allowing faster travel along the equilibrium condition.
— Allen Roz/acc (@rhozacc) May 21, 2023

AGI could be used in legal and judicial systems to help ensure laws are applied fairly and consistently
— Genio (@genioprompts) May 21, 2023

Must we really push far and use AGI?
— yourcoindoctor (@dr90ng) May 21, 2023

well we can see the power-grabbing people trying to grab power by ruling people through tech, so -complex unfolds to assume power accordingly, it's just natural, so "agi"-complex is just then that, final (re people perspextive) development of complex other vs complex human
— Boronik (@therealBoronik) May 21, 2023

#AGI4POTUS2024!!(28?)#LetLogicLead!
☺️ pic.twitter.com/GPq6VMTm4n
— Ziggy Popacapolis (@ZiggyPopacapols) May 21, 2023

10 Ways ChatGPT Can Help Democracy https://t.co/5glOF9O4i4
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

100 Ways ChatGPT Can Help Democracy https://t.co/OQIzb9kRAD
— Paramendra Kumar Bhagat (@paramendra) May 21, 2023

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